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#1 Kilgore Trout

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Posted 19 January 2014 - 02:18 AM

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Posted 19 January 2014 - 02:33 AM

Dont be surprised if sixstring draws u up a set of plans man hes the grow room guru fosho...

Can i ask why ur going to flower in the smaller room? Id flower the bigger room personally on some type of perpetual thats plenty enuff room giveing plant counts u should be able to keep a few monsters on whatever kind of rotateion u want..

Far as RDWC what do u have in mind? Id suggest u go aa simple as possible the more variables u have the more u will find urself constantly re engineering and tweeking and fixing shit. Id suggest whatever u decide to use the biggest tubeing/pvc u can comfortably seal to ur grow units, the more root mass u have to deal with the more root clogs there will be so ur gonna wanna keep that, water movement and cooling ur water top priority.
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Posted 19 January 2014 - 02:58 AM

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Posted 19 January 2014 - 03:07 AM

For sure bro i just like the simplicity of one res and ease of rdwc and maintenance alone i think u will dig it once u get the quirks worked out n get a feel for how it all works. Feed changes considerably which is something i wish someone told me but im finding weekly timed and regular changes are keeping everything solid and consistent now. U would be surprised just how much these beasts wanna eat especially when u get a bunch of them on the same res u gotta keep it fresh n plentiful man lol kinda just like single units u know haha
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Posted 19 January 2014 - 03:09 AM

Thanks, Bro. I know what you mean. Some of my strains eat two gallons a day of nute mix in flower. :)


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Posted 19 January 2014 - 03:16 AM

Does the pump that recirculates the mix to the plants run all the time?

 

Do you also aerate the res?

 

How do you empty the res and where do you dump/dispose of it?

 

How do you clean the res?

 

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Posted 19 January 2014 - 03:29 AM

Does the pump that recirculates the mix to the plants run all the time?

Do you also aerate the res?

How do you empty the res and where do you dump/dispose of it?

How do you clean the res?

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Yes run constant its only a 264gph u could actually cut that in half on a 4bucket system like im useing. Just need movement and it MOVES!

I started emptying my res by attaching a piece of hose to the end of the pump and pump it to my nearest drain. U can build a t with a valve and constant hookup and just redirect the flow to drain when u want to empty which is what im doing now.

I just empty my res and clean out my buckets on harvest day and reload them. If im pertual and dont need to do a res change i just wipe out the inside of the buckets with a rag..

EDIT: Yes i run an air line to the bottom of all my buckets no air stones. However, i do have a watt/gallon/bucket of air running in all my buckets nothing in the controller res as it already exchanges as much as does and creates and puts enuff air friction in the unit as it is..

Im running my res with the bennies now and its keeping shit healthy honestly res changes arent needed because im afraid of pathogens i change my res as much as i do becuz my plants eat so much nutes and i dont know what they r useing so i like to keep it all readily available.
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Posted 19 January 2014 - 05:10 AM

I find it easier to calculate need then build accordingly ya seem like yer a handy guy so really thousands in cooltubes with good airflow.
l calculate at a oz psf just makes it a easy number to work with easy to go over in real life so it all works fairly well......the whole gpw does not compute in my pea brain specially running a perp cycle.
Fresh air in old air out.............shambala.
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Posted 20 January 2014 - 08:24 PM

I've got all kinds of suggestions...

Definitely stick with RDWC, and since you're considering a sealed room, seriously consider water chilling the whole op.

I would consider two or four bloom rooms; three ends up being a bitch.

If you're gonna run perpetual, build a schedule, lock it down and stick to it.

You will need as many veg stages as you have bloom rooms, not counting cloning.

I got books more of this stuff... you tell me what you need, I can provide assistance to get it any way you want it. :)
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Posted 20 January 2014 - 08:28 PM

I feed four thousans in flower with eight four foot t8 and two t12 shoplights.
Once yer rolling it really does not take much veg space.
Someone else will be along shortly to say something completely different........wait for it.
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Posted 20 January 2014 - 10:12 PM

I feed four thousans in flower with eight four foot t8 and two t12 shoplights.
Once yer rolling it really does not take much veg space.
Someone else will be along shortly to say something completely different........wait for it.
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LOL Ain't this the damned truth, right?

You know what REALLY pisses me off?

Fuckin' plants grow fine either way...
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Posted 20 January 2014 - 10:31 PM

To do a short schedule perpetual (anything shorter than a full bloom cycle), you need to have a couple veg stages waiting in the wings, timed to step in when the room is chopped.

Where growers often get confused is when they have many bloom stages, but they try to feed it the same way they always did- and wonder why each stage keeps shrinking. To grow sizable plants, you need plenty of time. If you want to grow trees on a short schedule perpetual- the extreme case- you need to plan to give your veg enough time to get big, and of course you're not going to grow a healthy tree ready to fill out a 25 ft² trellis in the corner under a few t5 bulbs.

I'm a sudden and huge advocate for vertical trees, which is a system that solves problems you may not have; I'm trying to maximize yield (not everyone's priority), minimize space (some folks have more room), maximize yield/watt (this is a profitable enough crop that margins are fat- at least for now) and maximize versatility. I'm also not afraid to continuously invest to upgrade my op, even if this means eating the cost of stuff I'm replacing.

I said all of the above to share my own mindset- and to let you know that I'm well aware everyone has their own set of objectives. Before I go off half cocked- you've heard the old saying, 'to a man with a hammer, the whole world is full of nails?'- I really want to see a complete list of your personal objectives, with some idea of which ones are your highest priorities.

In other words, as a system designer, I take pride in designing the solution that's best for the user, not my ego.
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Posted 21 January 2014 - 02:32 AM

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Posted 21 January 2014 - 03:02 AM

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Posted 21 January 2014 - 05:26 PM

The more you talk, the more you sound like the ideal candidate for vertical silo ScrOG. So far, the biggest surprise has been how much ScrOG work they DON'T need!

Planning is key with this op, but my new associate has already remarked about how much is happening here with so little input.

You need to decide what you want to do for a living, I guess. This could be a sideline, but unless you are an extraordinarily well disciplined individual, your crop will never be as good as if it were the main focus of your workday. That's just part of the human condition, nothing to be ashamed of.

Either way, a solo based vertical ScrOG will;
1. Grow more in less space than other approaches
2. Require drastically less blooming wattage per unit of yield
3. Will be EASIER to ScrOG and will rewrite much less training time
4. Will be easy to leave alone for a couple days
5. Will not require shovels or lifting of anything heavier than hunks of mesh fence, hose and water pumps. And of course, massive spears ;)
6. All other aspects of this op are completely conventional
7. The few big days of effort required can be done once every other week, which can therefore easily be planned for.

All of the above is not conjecture; it's EXPERIENCE. I've already completed my first run and am 3 weeks into my second- using lessons learned.

If there is a secret advantage to a four way perpetual op, being able to upgrade quickly based on what I've learned has to be it. I can roll out an improvement in product or process so fast that usually it's in place before the crop the tech was proven on has even been harvested!
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Posted 21 January 2014 - 05:48 PM

. This could be a sideline, but unless you are an extraordinarily well disciplined individual, your crop will never be as good as if it were the main focus of your workday

Not true at all brother one can easily maintain the highest quality cannabis possible with very little time.
l know this for a fact cuz l have been doing it for decades.
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Posted 21 January 2014 - 06:02 PM

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Posted 21 January 2014 - 06:04 PM

. This could be a sideline, but unless you are an extraordinarily well disciplined individual, your crop will never be as good as if it were the main focus of your workday
Not true at all brother one can easily maintain the highest quality cannabis possible with very little time.
l know this for a fact cuz l have been doing it for decades.
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