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#1 T'Mag

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 08:44 PM

ok after long time researching methods and heated discussions with top growers i have concluded with this:

if you are driven to find a CBD enriched plant look no further than to your own garden.
meaning the past 50 years plants have been crossed so much that it in most plants
yes there are plants that keep pegging higher than others... but some have constantly higher than normal %.
we have learned that many different test have different numbers.... so have a few test done so you can zero in on your particular plant in your garden.

http://cannalyticssu...om/process.html
is a company that ships world wide.
i understand that this is only an approximate evaluation of the plant but it will help as a guide.
i also understand folks don't like supporting the evil profiting engine going on in the world surrounding CBD revolution. but lets set that aside for 1 moment.
this is a medical post for another way of growing your plant …. That’s it!

so this is how i fight fire with fire.... ARE YOU IN PAIN

try growing your magical plant this way...... its just another way to grow your plant. right! we all botanist in our own right and at our own levels.
if you want HIGH THC..... Thats another thred

these girls sparked the idea last year
and they know whats up.

stoney girl gardens
http://www.gro4me.com/claims.htm

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CBD Blooming Recipe iMo

veg the desired strain (or what ever you got) to the desired height.
Recommended light use: 400w hps or better…. T’5 sun light spectrums
Lighting on the walls and over head will alow the plant to bloom evenly
You want the whole plant to ripen evenly top to bottom for a precise 1:1 ratio
feed normal to light feedings (as not enough data is in yet to make a final decision) please no crazy chemicals keep Frankenstein'z genes out of our weed

72*f / 22*c for first 30 days of bloom
58-65*f / 15-18*c for 15 days

heating pads or insulating buckets recommended for soil temps to stay up for proper nutrient up take.

hydro guys the same water temps at normal temps

A/C is recommended in the off light hours. Its aiding in a faster ripen time iMO

SO YES HARVEST 35-45 days into bloom as a base for you expirement
After 45 days or so…. iMO THC Starts to set in
35-45 days for cbd
55- up for thc and cbn
In My Opinion

cure the plant just like the top growers do in the proper relative humidity and methods
now some may like to smoke this plant this way and other may wish to make into butter,oils, tincs, balms and other consumable medibles.

whatever your goal is this is just for people who wish for basically free medicine.... yes i said it FREE PAIN RELIEF
SO yeah you don’t need to send it to a lab to have it tested that costs $$$$
You got time to kill right…. Experiment yourself

Here are some strains having good results

Watch these companies as the word get out thc fall and cbd rise.
(only do to harvest and environment conditions)
Be cautious of imposters…. You can have a sample of cbd rich flowers and a thc rich flower Crush them together and you can get a false reading… so be aware of frauds. Below are a good refinances point to judge your experiments
http://www.straingeniuslabs.com/
http://budgenius.com/

NOW I HAVE TO BUILD AN EXTRA CLOSET FOR MY CBD ENDEVOURS….f#@*$
BUT WILL NEVER LOOSE SIGHT OF MY THC SMOKE THAT IS MY PAST,PRESANT AND FUTURE.

STRAINS
Sour Tsunami

Harlequin

Omrita Rx3

Jamaican Lion

Cannatonic

Juanita la Lagrimosa

Misty

Good Medicine

Maz's Cheese
TB x OGK
OG Afghani
Jamaican Skunk
Atomic Jam
Downtown Diesel

Cotton Candy x Diesel
Sugaree x Blue Diesel
SFV
R-4
Bubblegum Kush
Intensive Care OG Kush
Kushage
Soma A+

Stinky Purple

Poison OG

Granny Durkel

Wu#1

Phenom Phen

Purple Diesel

Silver Dragon

Monkey Balls

F5 Manawell

Sweet SF x OG

Black Queen

1. R-4
CBD: 14.55%
CBN: <0.01%
THC: 0.59%
CBC: <0.01%
THCV: <0.01%
Total: 15.14%

2. AFGHANI DIESEL
CBD: 14.34%
CBN: <0.01%
THC: 5.21%
CBC: <0.01%
THCV: <0.01%
Total: 19.55%

3. Harlequin
CBD: 13.65%
CBN: <0.01%
THC: 6.03%
CBC: <0.01%
THCV: <0.01%
Total: 19.68%

4. R-4
CBD: 12.7%
CBN: 0.18%
THC: 0.47%
CBC: <0.01%
THCV: <0.01%
Total: 13.35%

5. Bubble Kush
CBD: 12.36%
CBN: 0.2%
THC: 6.52%
CBC: <0.01%
THCV: <0.01%
Total: 19.08%

6. Bubba Kush
CBD: 12.35%
CBN: <0.01%
THC: 7.83%
CBC: <0.01%
THCV: <0.01%
Total: 20.18%

7. Wu#1
CBD: 11.9%
CBN: 0.21%
THC: 7.21%
CBC: <0.01%
THCV: <0.01%
Total: 19.32%

8. 1st Pre 98 Bubba Kush
CBD: 11.85%
CBN: <0.01%
THC: 6.3%
CBC: <0.01%
THCV: <0.01%
Total: 18.15%

9. Phenom Phem
CBD: 11.66%
CBN: <0.01%
THC: 3.16%
CBC: <0.01%
THCV: <0.01%
Total: 14.81%

10. 2nd Bubble Gum Kush
CBD: 11.33%
CBN: <0.01%
THC: 6.6%
CBC: <0.01%
THCV: <0.01%
Total 17.92%
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#2 skh

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 08:50 PM

where do those test results come from?

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 08:58 PM

random people just triing to figure it out.

these are just peoples opinions

no more no less
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 04:40 PM

this is way off. thc is thge early one then cbd. thats why tjhey call it syko weed with hi thc cause its commercial cropped early. that is one test ive seen from start to finsuh. weekly efficacy testing to see how it happens. on average we saw peek thc at 5 to 7 week, then fade and brings up cbd. not only that but your lost half the yield cutting early
and dont forget all them results have the acid form inc. so it may be 1% cbd and rest is nothing acid forms. when we can see true results that show all then its accurate.
and we need thc with the cbd to work right. Dr h did this years ago. not sure why they dont look at his real results. hes already extracted pure cbd and thc and made his own ratio and it dont work


SO YES HARVEST 35-45 days into bloom as a base for you expirement
After 45 days or so…. iMO THC Starts to set in
35-45 days for cbd
55- up for thc and cbn
In My Opinion



i wouldnt call those peoples opinions..was a test done in lab wasnt it. not opinion then. more sales pitches to me..no offence to what your trying to do for people..its great, but these places just use you guys for advertising. you do the work and they take the profits

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 05:05 PM

A smart Hydro guy might be able to probly beat the 1 unit per plant mark
1 light per plant 600-750w what ever you got lights
What? Oh yeah 1 unit is equal to 2.2lbs or 1 unit = 1 kilo.

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IF IT HAS A STAR * BY IT. IT HAS TO BE THERE OR IT DOSENT WORK.
ALL OTHERS CAN HAVE A GENERIC OR OTHER NAME…. I DON’T CARE WHAT YOU GET
cost = yes divided by 365 days. $800/365= $2.20 a day to opertate a large grow
THESE ARE FOR 30 GALLON AIR NET POTS….UPTO 15 PLANTS GOING AT ONCE.
These are in the order given
use the vegg stuff for veg and the bloom stuff for bloom
this is enough to last a big grow for 2 harvest. So what TARD dose is cuts every bottle in half.

Here is the simple part 5 gallon bucket of raw water straight from the well or tap
Mix a cap full of everything at the right times into the 5 gallon bucket
Each bottle has a cap use that cap tard! In a 5 gallons of water
Now go stick that water in the tube showed in the diagram….
Wer feeding the roots right! Not the plant.
Most of us tards just water with what ever. Were just a bunch of surface feeders…bunch of flat landers.
The tube:
Take pvc pipe and capit and drill some holes…duh
Stick it in the soil about half way out rim to plant
While its in veg you only feed through the tube….that gets that main root ball feeding down low.
Air pots work well cuz the roots go to the edge…die split and come back for more food
Causing a lattice effect in the root ball
Once you know you got a good lower root ball…start feeding from the top soil and the tube.
Take a 30+ day old clone and and stick it in a 30 gallon smart pot,,,,,, and grow the roots for 4 months.


if you are in smaller buckets then its a simple maff calculation.... make your stuff last 2 years.

dont buy cbd seeds.....its in your garden right now..... some are just higher than others


dry ice tumble the trichomes off and sift.....= hash

take the leaf and bud matter bud stemms = cbd ......stew that matter in your favorite oil or budder at 170* and walla you have cbd

if you dont mind the yuk factor..... acetone debirs matter stew 170* strain debri and let evaporate for a few days.... what is left is cbd goo..... imo at the moment

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 05:07 PM

THE END TILL THEN
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Posted 03 April 2012 - 05:25 AM

this is way off. thc is thge early one then cbd. thats why tjhey call it syko weed with hi thc cause its commercial cropped early. that is one test ive seen from start to finsuh. weekly efficacy testing to see how it happens. on average we saw peek thc at 5 to 7 week, then fade and brings up cbd. not only that but your lost half the yield cutting early
and dont forget all them results have the acid form inc. so it may be 1% cbd and rest is nothing acid forms. when we can see true results that show all then its accurate.
and we need thc with the cbd to work right. Dr h did this years ago. not sure why they dont look at his real results. hes already extracted pure cbd and thc and made his own ratio and it dont work


SO YES HARVEST 35-45 days into bloom as a base for you expirement
After 45 days or so…. iMO THC Starts to set in
35-45 days for cbd
55- up for thc and cbn
In My Opinion



i wouldnt call those peoples opinions..was a test done in lab wasnt it. not opinion then. more sales pitches to me..no offence to what your trying to do for people..its great, but these places just use you guys for advertising. you do the work and they take the profits


sorry this guy dosent know what he's talking about.

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Posted 03 April 2012 - 05:28 AM

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this is what i feel is the junction
when i locked up all the plants the dominant ones with stronger numbing properties showed them selves.
the male g13/hazebx1copper was the first male i ever tasted that numbed my mouth. a male with cbga
i still say check your males..... taste the leaves


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cbd project copied

Why does it happen, that after generations of breeding Cannabis to maximize THC, about one in 500 samples tested by the labs is found to contain 4% CBD or more? This is one of many questions we hope to answer. A friend is convinced that a mutation gave rise to his True Blueberry x OG Kush cross, which typically contains 10% CBD or more. "Neither parent stock had CBD," he notes. It took a series of crosses and parent selections to produce his blue-ribbon strain. When and where would such a mutation occur? As the Cannabis plant matures, the common precursor to both CBD and THC is a molecule called cannabigerolic acid (CBGA).

CBGA is turned into CBD acid and THC acid by enzymes called CBDA synthase and THCA synthase. A mutation resulting in excess CBDA synthase or deficient THCA synthase would result in CBD-rich offspring.
We hope to track the similarities and differences reported between strains with similar cannabinoid ratios. Harlequin, Jamaican Lion and Omrita Rx3, for example, have been tested several times by several labs and are in the neighborhood of 8-9% CBD and 5.5-6% THC —about a 3:2 ratio. And yet anecdotal evidence suggests differing effects. We have only taken the first step on a long march towards understanding.
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Posted 03 April 2012 - 05:49 AM

PRK has a high thc,cbn in the trichomes and the crystals

PRK has a high cbd % in the leaf and bud matter.....how high? i dont fucking know ...but it numbs my face off.

i smoked the trichomes....kief hash.....trippy stuff.

i tasted the finshed cbd oil product and fell asleep in an hour in the middle of the day? and my wife's migraine went away? it was also an aphrodisiac for her!!!! oh yeah!

you guys can argure with me till the cows come home

30 day acetone extraction method for CBD should not be smoked it is a balm or ingested..... but i caution start off in tiny amounts.
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recap

strip the thc/cbn from the leaf by using dry ice = keif hash.....super rad smoke

strip the leaf oil by heating the acetone stew up to 80*c and then let evaporate for 30 days in ambient temp. what is left is cbd goop......
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Posted 05 April 2012 - 05:57 AM

ok fellas we are looking for these indicators.

hearty leaves = high % cbd
notice the difference between a paper thin leaf and a thick hearty leaf
hearty leafs are an indicator of high cbd plant.

spicy taste, burning sensation on the toungue, numbing of the mothe lips for a long period of time is a key indicator of a high cbd plant.

skunks
kushs
wi fi
alien
should be right up there with bad ass.

last week of bloom
week 7-8 or what ever stop watering...... let the plant drout to the end the plant sucks like a straw.
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Posted 05 April 2012 - 05:43 PM

I'd beware of taking any information sourced from Stoney Girl with any degree of confidence , she's a scam artist and a huckster.

She has a history of making obscenely inflated claims as regards finish times and thc percentages , there is very little reason to think that she'd act in a different manner now that she smells money in the growing CBD industry.
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Posted 05 April 2012 - 07:17 PM

If any here doubt what I've stated in reference to " Stony Girl" then take a look for yourself , note that she has **drasticly** modified some of here claims and they are STILL ridiculous.


This woman is distrusted by folks from the Canadian border to the Mexican Border as goes the West Coast. Tell me do ****ANY**** of y'all believe " 28 days" on her Bullshit Berkeley? 33-36 percent on the " Pit Bull" , all those 28 %s but NO lab test to be seen.


SHOW ME!!!! Because tell ya what folks , and if there are ANY of her usual cadre hanging around y'all can take this RIGHT back and fling it in her face , and YEAH I'll do it **personally** when/if I catch up to here.

B U L L S H I T !!!!!..............Stony Girl is a prevaricating Con Artist.......tell her I said so , and that I'm gonna KEEP saying it.................course she could shut folk like me up with just a few V E R I F I A B L E labtests anfd the like.


EDIT: by the way folks , this bitch is responsible for the introduction of end user licensing agreements into weed , y'all take a look at here EXPLOITATIVE "licensing" bullshit..............: clone reproduction " license" my ass. Which finger am I holding towards all this bullshit?

And again , TELL her I said so , She wants MY ass she knows full well where I am. Bring it the f*** on.

http://www.gro4me.com/Exclusive.htm

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#13 T'Mag

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 08:47 PM

that is fair of you to say that. you wont get any argument out of me on this one.
i dont know them personally...so rant away my friend.
i have been testing the extremes these past 2 months to see where the middle is.
and from what i have seen and learned past 2 weeks is stoney girls do harvest early
i have seen well mature buds produce high thc and high cbd.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 09:20 PM

harvesting early would not matter. THC and CBD are created independently of each other. so it doesn't matter when you harvest, but if harvesting early then certainly this would produce less of everything.
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Posted 06 April 2012 - 01:37 AM

that is fair of you to say that. you wont get any argument out of me on this one.
i dont know them personally...so rant away my friend.
i have been testing the extremes these past 2 months to see where the middle is.
and from what i have seen and learned past 2 weeks is stoney girls do harvest early
i have seen well mature buds produce high thc and high cbd.




Show me a ***single*** test from a reputable lab in which a sample tests at the percentages she makes claim of , that's again a **single** example. Make sure you read beyond just the EULA for seeds and get a glance at her ridiculous freaking " fees".............fucking extortion is more like it.


http://www.gro4me.com/eula.htm

In addition *eaxmine* her " licensing agreements and the fees .FIVE GRAND????? 13 grand " in product"? And y'all best examine the WHO behind PORTLANDERSTERDAM UNIVERSITY..............because it's ANOTHER of Stoney Girls moneymaking S C A M S . along with her Butt Buddy Mike Mullins...........and Mikey I *know* you're reading this , go back to pimping Jen out while she grinds her ass on middle-aged bald sleazeballs during 2 dollar lapdances.

Oh and Mikey...........if *I* choose to run a crop of your socalled genetics , then you bring your ass and shut me down P E R S O N A L L Y..........


By the way folks , keep in mind that you have to grow with THEIR soil ( purchsed from them of course) , via THEIR methods and YOU are " open for inspection" to THEM at any time.

And guess what Mikey and Jen , FUCK you and that bullshit on your seed packages , " you can only grow in one location cannot reporduce , clone , sell etc.etc.etc."........

How's about a Big Helping of " Go Fuck Yourself StonyGirl Gardens"...........I'll do as I damn please with the seeds I have from your strains.

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 02:41 AM

LOL

yeah...i'm not to fond of people charging and saying they have cbd seeds.......we all got'm already..... no need to pay money....

we may not have the holy grail clone but we got a few here in the group that peg high on the numb scale.....good enough for me.

i just want people to know the indicators of a low cbd and a high cbd.

sight & taste test dose it for me.

like mac said today to me.... his blue mystic numbed and tingled his mouth for 45 minutes....... makes me happy to know my good friend has pain relief in his own closet.

5 minute numb = low % of cbd

45 minute numb = high % of cbd

IMO
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Posted 06 April 2012 - 09:13 AM

thats the only trouble tmag people will try and make profit from the sick by selling their seeds as high cbd, just look at the cbd crew in amsterdam they soon got in with selling their seeds,,,,peace,mac.
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#18 T'Mag

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 02:49 PM

typical human behavior...

i'm just giving my seeds away

so not only do we have to over grow the gov.... we have to over grow seed companies.

we need to spred the word now that we have a human indicator of detecting a cbd plant early in vegg.

most growers are growing there whole plant ot to bloom and sending it in to labs.....

its a waste of time and money

its time to start chew on our cud and get the word out.....

sight and taste method to a high cbd plant.

spred the word
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#19 T'Mag

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 01:25 AM

THIS IS GUNNA MAKE BLOOD SPIRT OUT OF YOUR EYES RON !!!!

THIS WAS JUST E-MAILED TO ME!

WTF

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Dear CBD-crew friends,

few week ago we went online with our new CBD-crew website:
http://cbdcrew.org/

We are pleased to announce that we are now are able to offer you what is left of the CBD-crew stock of seed!
That is after the initial sales of our main distributor seedsman.com and at our booth at the Spannabis fair in Barcelona.
Only a limited amount of seed is available - please read more here:
http://cbdcrew.org/news/

*Direct link to auctions:
https://www.mrnice.n...owse.php?id=206

We are still looking for test growers - we decided to extended until *10th April 2012* the deadline for signin up - don't waste your last chance to participate - use our web form:
http://cbdcrew.org/test-grow/


*Important*
We really need good growers that create grow report threads on MNS forum with the new CBD-crew varieties -
by sharing your experience with us you'll also set a standard to help patients grow their own medicine:
http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/cbd-crew/


All the Best & happy Easter break,

CBD-crew 2012


CBD-crew is a joint venture between Mr. Nice Seedbank and Resin Seeds
aimed to produce 100% CBD-rich seeds for medical marijuana patients.

What is CBD?
http://cbdcrew.org/what-is-cbd/


* For more information email us:
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* or visit www.cbdcrew.org

06/04/2012
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Posted 07 April 2012 - 12:26 PM

Yeah , I'd like to have Blakey and Marks alone in a closed room for about 2 minutes. Pirate sonsabitches that they are.

Here's another site that you have quite likely perused already.

http://projectcbd.or...ence.html#First
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